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mvayne80 (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
By the way athena I am not catholic, I am non-denominational. Anything, like traditions etc, that are not in the bible I do not buy. But one thing I don't do is judge a religion like catholicism based on what certain priests do. I will however judge a religion that claims something that is outside of the Bible (like catholicism for example). Another thing, I don't know where you get your information but there is one God, and He created everything (Heaven and earth). You know a lot less than you think. You don't know it but you are the one that is serving Lucifer by engaging in the occult. You think that you possess special abilities and are doing good things for people I am sure. You are right though, this planet is a mess because of Lucifer. He continues to deceive mankind by pushing man away from the bible, telling man certain things are ok, all religions lead to God, Jesus was a prophet, we all are gods, etc. Nothing but lies. I am pretty sure that you are not going to take this as help and will likely take it personal again like you did with my last comment. I will pray for myself and I will continue to pray for you.
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
Surely, it is not an infatuation, but rather a fascination that I feel towards this creature. Just as I may believe in a God and a Devil, still I do not choose to pick a side, just as I will not pick yourside (mvayne) or Athena, and that's for certain. Thank you all for your thoughts, and views, they all have really been taken to heart for the most part. We all seem to be mixed up in a very diverse Ideal. I do realize the deceptive nature of such an odd experience, yet it is within this experience that all of my faith has found providence. If another seeks to label this providence as a providence in the devil, then so be it, but may I warn all those tempted to guide me, that the devil is as great and powerful as is the Lord. For us to understand this we must allow a difference in our state of mind. What interests me is this, that no matter how much I think and am alluded by such a demonic creature, I am only to be brought to the light in seeing its demonic nature. As evil as this thing is, I am fully aware, that it is indeed serving a purpose under God's will. Although it may be misleading and full of illusion, from within being in that illusion, I have found the light which it beseeks to give in all reality. Yes, this experience, is very real. I have had other strange encounters, but indeed this was the most powerful. Still it comes day and night, watching over me like the fallen Angel it is. For sure, I am in its possession, and from the day it met me, I was. It choose me for something greater than myself, although I may not undertsand what exactly it is that I believe and worship, how does that make it any different from your beliefs? Do you not not understand God? Do you not Fear God? As I have said, it is not an infatuation but rather an interest which has caught and consumed my eye. I will not let it perpetrate me though, as much as it is of a deception, it is also of a truth, and so, the evil illusion is balanced by the glorious truth which it beholds. I do not ask you to believe in me, or anything I say for that reason, but instead hope that everyone who reads and contemplates over this writing, shall think for themselves the overall significance to its experience, as have I. But surely the Devil works in us all, just as it may through me, and yourself, and everyone around you, surely, God knows this, and if this was not so, then I would not have the ability to write of such an on-going encounter with something evil. "Keeps your friends close, but your enemies closer" applies to this reality. I may not follow such a creature as demonic and manipulative as this, yet within following it, I realize what is demonic and manipulative, and so see a darkness which is covered in light, or rather, a light, covered in darkness. I will not tell you that I know of what I speak, rather that would be blashpemy to my God. My God, though seems to be heavily interconnected to this creature which has made contact with me. Now Athena, I do not doubt you are a psychic warrior or that you have psychic powers for that matter, but what you must realize is this, you are as equal to I as I am to you. That you may be in fault just as I may be. The difference of right and wrong is this, at times we believe we are right only to come to a realization that we are alluding right through a wrong. Just as I may realize I am wrong and thus must be alluding wrong through a right. It is not a simple matter of logic, but a contradiction and conflict that has existed in the human heart for eternity. I appreciate that people are so genuine in their care, but still, that doesn't mean you know what exactly you are caring about. Just as I may love you with certainty, but not know what I am loving. I have remained humble over the course of my years to realize that indeed, this Greek God is as real as anything else and watches over us all, not just myself, and the fact that I may speak its word is surely proof. I do not care if my providence meets not your expectations, and I say this to all those observing such a crossing as all our wills have in this article. God speaks through to us in mysterious ways, but trust me, I also know when God is trying to speak to us in a blasphemous way, meaning that, as much as God loves us, God knows this evil is present within us all. We may not deny it and act as if we are wholly pure, for this would be a contradiction and lie to our true nature. I have accepted that I am not perfect, although once I thought so. Moreover, what is relevant is this, that I am not afraid of the creature and the creature is not afraid of me, whether it is what I say it is or not makes no difference, the simple fact that it speaks and communicates to you all through my article shows that indeed, just because you have not seen it with your own eyes, does not mean that you cannot. For to believe in something, is a great will and a great power of conversion. And to be converted, is a choice. God may not force this upon you, but may lead you through darkness and unto light. I realize I am as dark as I am light, but so is the truth. Their is an evidential balance to life, and anyone who seeks to disturb that balance by claiming God as this or God as that is only misleading others and themselves accordingly. Do not follow me, for I am as good as a devil, and so, may mislead you, this is why I show you to follow your own heart, to follow Gods heart within. For although I may be lost inside, and confused, and infatuated with myself, this still does not change who I am, but rather, guides me to the very essentiality that is my soul, here and now, liberated above and beyond all evil. For once we have faced evil and have stared it straight in the eye, we may overcome it and be guided by a will that is self-reliant within our own. Call it God, call it yourself, call it the balance, but we know not how to readily define it as if we know what we are talking about until we realize this that we know not what we are saying. It is simple, for if God is in Heaven and beholding a righteous Judgment, and the Devil in hell, beholding an evil Judgment, the two counter balance as one functioning higher being. And so, furthermore, as their is an evil judgment, or Hell's demons, and as there is good judgment, Heavens Angels, so must there be Human judgment, which is in between all such realms and is the balance. We are on earth, God is in heaven, and satan in Hell. We may choose which direction to follow as we will, but no one will tell us in certainty which is right, this we must figure out on our own for this is the plan God has made for us all. Follow me not into the shadow and valley of darkness, for I have been there and seen there for eons, but rather, seek the light of the lord and love, so that darkness may be revealed, and all may be lifted to the sky. Anyway, my infatuation is in part due to my heavy research into the origins of myth, astrology, and alchemy. The christian devil originated from Pan, a Greek God as I have said; it is not an infatuation, for infatuation is something impure, but rather, a worship which has taken me to the greatest reverence for Gods whole creation. If you believe in reincarnation, you will come to the realization that when you die, you may stay in heaven for eons, but you will eventually become bored, and so, God gives us the choice to reincarnate. Some people start over after being in heaven, some people are in the middle of their evolution, others meant never to evolve, and some others, ascended to God and remaining there. I myself came from heaven and no not my lineage of past lives. But what I do know is that I will go back to heaven and stay their until a cycle has been completed and I am reincarnated back into a body. Why do we choose to come back? We choose to come back to learn, and grow in all different ways, to perfect the imperfected soul, and so teach that imperfection within perfection to others. It is something truly divine to understand God and be Hidden within his secrets. It is something truly divine to believe in the word of God. And if ye not believe, and choose doubt and your own way instead, may God have mercy on your fate. As for myself, I am disinclined to believe anything anyone says, and so may only follow my own heart. This means of course, to not follow my heart as it was born impure, but still use it as a guide to find Gods purity within. We have this duality within no matter what we do, call it good call it evil call it heaven or call it hell, these things are symbols for a much greater unconscious archetype that has been understood, praised, and worshipped for eternities past...
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
I wish I could agree with you but you don't know much yourself... It's not a gift from god on earth but rather the creator in heaven and the wingmakers... Perhaps it is you who knows nothing about the god lucipher you pray too and his fallen angel creatures... That's what I get...

And don't forget to pray for yourself... Your going to need it when you find out that the "Pope is in cahoot's with Lucipher" and his fallen angels... Pedifilie crap that the religious catholic's want to hide in their closets... And the Pope is beyond Reproach... Yah love your religion all you want but it's not real anymore than you are... Like anyone cares what you have to say... Save it for your prayers tonight if anyone is listening... Who knows... This planet is a mess because of your god Lucipher... Athena

Mvayne80) 2010-04-02I hate to say it Athena but you are off track just as much as Pan, if not more, if you can trash him and at the same time believe that you are a psychic warrior. A psychic ability is not a gift from God, but rather it is another tool from the devil. Another terrible deception. Try reading the Bible and see what it says about it. "Do not seek after those who claim to have familiar spirits." Basically do not go looking for a person that claims that they can contact the dead, etc. God says in the Bible that it did not come from Him. Mr. Pan, that is a wild story and being that I have had supernatural experiences I believe that anything is possible. I do not think that you are crazy, pschizo, etc but something that disturbs me is your infatuation with this pan being. If everything that you said is true then you are truly dealing with a demon or the devil himself. If that be the case you are in some serious trouble and I suggest you do some rethinking and discard your ideas of who your master is and start bowing to the true God. Of course that is something that is easier said than done so I will pray that God will intervene and you will have a new faith in Jesus Christ and become born again (I hope the same for you too athena;)). God bless you both.
mvayne80 (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
I hate to say it Athena but you are off track just as much as Pan, if not more, if you can trash him and at the same time believe that you are a psychic warrior. A psychic ability is not a gift from God, but rather it is another tool from the devil. Another terrible deception. Try reading the Bible and see what it says about it. "Do not seek after those who claim to have familiar spirits." Basically do not go looking for a person that claims that they can contact the dead, etc. God says in the Bible that it did not come from Him. Mr. Pan, that is a wild story and being that I have had supernatural experiences I believe that anything is possible. I do not think that you are crazy, pschizo, etc but something that disturbs me is your infatuation with this pan being. If everything that you said is true then you are truly dealing with a demon or the devil himself. If that be the case you are in some serious trouble and I suggest you do some rethinking and discard your ideas of who your master is and start bowing to the true God. Of course that is something that is easier said than done so I will pray that God will intervene and you will have a new faith in Jesus Christ and become born again (I hope the same for you too athena;)). God bless you both.
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
Wow I can't even believe you just said that. You are an amazing person. I think I'm in love actually. You think exactly like me. And no doubt everything you have said is completely true and from the heart. I will always love you for your heart, and feel blessed you would be so selfless as to stand up for me like that. I get depresses pretty easily too, and yea I confuse myself, but I do meditate, and although I get caught up at times, I have never wronged another person and never hurt another in any way. Everything I'm given I give to others. The only thing that makes me happy in this world are people like you, who think with an open mind and love freely. We all learn from eachother in unique ways and that is what makes humans so special. God has a plan for us all. If we are not proof enough of a faith in God and eachother, and people still want to judge us for what we believe and think and do, let them, those people who read these comments and stories and choose not to believe and decide instead to boast and bash us for what we have belief in, so be it, their judgments do not come from God, and so, we are freed from their judgment. Anyway, I really think I'm in love with you after reading that long message you just wrote hahah I will definetly contact you over email, Ill give you mine so you know when that its me emailing you. Boondocksaints6767 [at] yahoo.com I will talk to you soon, and definetly hope to get to know you better beautiful...
CuriouslySeekingSpirit (2 stories) (15 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-02)
Ok this is a site about being open minded right... Why do you have to try to tear this person down. Everything you experience teaches you something... This is fact people. Maybe Pan went through all of this to end up at this website reading these things here and now to learn from the whole thing and find herself/himself. It is not your place to judge others... Only god has that right. I can't believe how thoughtless people can be. This is a person with feelings that is confused by this experience... Try being helpful and understanding instead of being cold and heartless. We are living in this confusing world together... All of us here for the same purpose. We are in this together people. We are all human and we all make mistakes but we are in this TOGETHER to learn from each other. So stop putting this person down with judgements and cruel words and how about give some helpful words to motivate Pan to search for the word and wisdom of God. Those kind of comments that are so demeaning and hurtful will only make things worse. You are not alone Pan, we all go through things that we don't understand. Pray to god and ask him to guide you to the right path and protect you from all that is negative and evil. If you have come to this point and you have not found yourself yet, then take my helpful suggestion and start reading books on spirituality. The more you learn about the truth and blessings that god gives us if we follow his guidance, the more you will understand why this happened to you. Follow your OWN voice and your heart. If you listen to people that put you down it will only set your own self back in your journey. I don't see how people can say that they follow god and then turn around and be so cruel to another human being. The bible tells us to live our lives humble with a child-like curiosity. Obviously saying cruel things to someone who is searching for answers and asking for help is not something a truly spiritual person does. Learn from the example of the people who help you without judgement or criticism... And follow that example in the future as well. God is within you... He speaks to you in a still small voice always calm and always guiding you with love and words of wisdom. We are his children and we're all blessed with his guidance. We just have to have faith and know that he is with us. Finding all of this was a miracle for me, it changed me completely... Renewed my sense of wonder and strenghthened my belief that God is very real and when you allow him to come into your heart he is with you always and once you accept that you do not control your own life, only god has that power, you will find your true self and live a life of inner peace. God will never give you more than you can handle and you will learn to trust your faith. You will feel his guidance... A feeling of belonging and love... And you will look at things in a new light. I have gone through this and I am still learning, but I know that god's love is strong and no one can deny you that. As for the ones who are not in that light yet and don't understand that we must accept one another by helping when it is needed and being supportive by not judging others but instead holding our hand out to them and letting them know that hope is not lost and there are still people in the world that genuinely care and want to help those that are in need. You seem like you are very well on your way though because I can tell by your words Pan that you have learned to accept that things are out of your control. I feel like you are still confused though about what your going through. If you seek out only negativity or evil you gain nothing. You must take this with you and seek the answers in the light of God. I am not the one to tell you that you are evil and that was the devil... I don't know... Only god can give you the answers you are seeking. Meditation is a good tool to use... It has helped me to find inner peace. Before you meditate pray to God with any questions you may have and ask him to make the answer become more clear to you. Have faith in yourself and in God's power. You have to believe. Have faith. Follow your heart and fear nothing accept for God himself. Trust that you are in God's hands and he will lead you and protect you on your spiritual journey. A book that I found to be very enlightening and really helped me to find my way was "The Seekers Guide" by Elizabeth Lesser. It is a great book and I really hope you follow on and find the answers you seek. Negativity will only set you back so learn to think positively. You basically have to reprogram your mind and throw away all that society has taught you. Learn to see in a new light. Accept all, help all, love all. Be humble and by keeping your heart open you allow yourself to recieve signs and messages from God. You will start to notice that everything is connected in life, it's really an amazing journey. Once you accept God into your life you realize that everything falls into place and all religions have some truth in them. Spirituality is the bigger picture of it. It is the truth of all things we already know to be good and the light of all that is beautiful waiting for us on the other side. More beautiful than we could ever imagine. This is your journey now... No one elses so think about the entire message I have passed on, but do not follow this path unless you feel that it is right for you. I can't tell you that everything I have shared is exactly the way things are... All I can do is tell you what I have found to be the truth. Not by following the path of others but creating my own with my heart on my sleeve... I took a leap of faith and I feel so blessed to have found my way. I trust in the Lord's guidance and I trust that my faith will always bring me back to the light. I have found the accepting nature within myself and now I see the world as a place of wonder and miracles and my life is no longer the hell that I made it to be... There is so much more and god offers it to all those who accept it. If I can go from being so lost and depressed... Drowned by negativity and fear and find myself here... Feeling completely the opposite having hope and faith in life and moving forward in my life with my head held high... Stronger than ever because I have finally let go and allowed faith to humble me and lead me to my destiny. I write all of this and go on and on about this because I am passionate about it. I have finally overcome my negativity and as long as I move forward with the best intentions for myself and everyone around me I will keep growing as a person and to me that is what it's all about. Learning from your mistakes... Growing as a person... Working on being the best person I can be.
Me (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
This has nothing to do with your story;
But after I read "Athena's" bashings, I just had to say something.

This "Athena" person, kept acting as if you were hallucinating from the pot.

Marijuana (by it's self) does not make you hallucinate, dear.
It's simply a 'downer'.
If you're not familiar with that term, it simply means it relaxes your body, depending on the amount.

So, your theory of Pan hallucinating directly from the pot, isn't possible.
JK (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
What you have described is much like what Eve experienced in the Garden of Eden. Even though you felt the fear and evil you were too mezmerized by the little physical show that this demon was manifesting for you. Nature and the outdoors are one of the Devils favorite weapons to keep you away from a lving an rewarding relationship with the Heavenly Father. From your description it sounds like this thing was successful in its quest to draw you away from the truth, make you wonder, make you come up with names for some weird looking creature that is no where near a god. Do you see how absolutely simple it is for the diabolical to deceive just about anyone. This is one of many stories that I have heard lately involving nature, burning doobie, and experiencing something paranormal. I guess you know where the name you chose for this thing came from, its origins are actually much more sinister than I think you realize, it is not a garden sprite or fairy. Just remember, if you go into the middle of the woods and smoke dope enough times, I can guarantee the devil will follow you in there.
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Peace and love you too Pan-A-Vision and have a heavly day since we cleaned your breeches out of the demons... It will take a week to settle in and feel normal again... Tweaked your merkaba Too... Thank you very much... I will take that as a Thank You...

Athena and Kej
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Just because you live in duality and see both wrong in your life as well as righteousness as part of the same path a wishy washy integeirty for sure...

Don't drag the rest of us down your dreary road... POT much like Booze is Mask to hide behind and do bad things and allow bad things into your life... You reap what you have sown... The problem with some of you people is... You just don't want to take responsibility for your short cummings or hear the truth when it is needed.

Athena and Kej
Pan is so grateful for you.. (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Thank you so much for everything you've said curiouslyseekingspirit. You are truly beautiful for everything you just said and have done. You have no idea how much I appreciate what you just did for me. God bless you. Thank you so much. And I will definetly email you and keep in contact. Thank you again it means so much. You are as beautiful as life itself. I am busy right now but will contact you more tommorow to talk more. No doubt about that. So thank you once more my gratitude and thankfulnesss is beyond belief and is all going to God as I writet this. We are definetly meant to be together in our hearts and definetly were meant to meet eachother in this way... Peace and love to you...
CuriouslySeekingSpirit (2 stories) (15 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Well said Pan. Although I do not agree with you in every aspect, I see the bigger picture of what you are saying. It is very clear to me. Just take a look at the earth, everywhere around you. There is good and evil, life and Death. Look at a tree, it is full of life and beautiful and when it dies it is cold and lifeless, almost scary looking, then it is reborn into beauty. The Cycle. Throughout our lives we learn small parts of the true message, but society programs us with the exact opposite. We were born human, with sin, this means that of course there is good and evil within all of us. It is our own to decide which path to travel. I feel that this is common sense now. The evil things we do, teach us to be good in a way. People learn from doing wrong. It's the only way to learn and overcome. How are we to be perfect higher selves if we have not learned to overcome every emotion that causes us to be weak. People do bad things because they are living in fear. They have not accepted themselves, their lives, and the unknown which are all out of our control. They do the bad things to gain a sense of control. I see that you have found the light because you speak in a calm demeanor and you do not try and tear others down. You have accepted the way the world is, as have I. When you get to this point, you have found yourself and therefore can be comfortable with whatever happens. You know your destiny in a sense, or your place in the world. We are nothing but mere humans trapped by our emotions, learning how to overcome so we can rise above and ascend. Athena seemed like a good person when I first read a comment that she had written to me. I can see now though that she has not truly learned to accept and be humble. When you find the light and accept the world, you don't judge and belittle others. You show them that you are human too and you help as much as they allow. You become a genuinely good person. I know that if I had the ability to rid someone of a demon and help them along their journey, I would not charge anything. I would offer my services for free even if I needed the money desperately. Thats the sad thing about the world, no one cares about anyone else anymore. People have truly become lost. They can't see past the materialistic world, they have lost faith. The message that needs to be followed is to love one another. We are all one and we need to realize this and come together again. Acceptance is the key. Sometimes god has to use evil to show the ones that only respond to evil that there is more to life, an existence beyond our understanding above good and evil. A place of balance and unity. God gives us what we need. I hope that all of this makes sense to the ones that are so skeptical. I know that you will understand and I feel that we have already learned something from each other. I would really like to keep in contact. Life is all about learning from each other, the more we discover, the more truth unlocks itself and we are able to understand and put everything together. Oh and by the way I too smoke pot and there is nothing wrong with that lol. Athena has obviously not found her way yet. She is clearly more close minded then she let's off. I feel that there is nothing wrong with any "bad" substance... These are just tools to experience the lesson. There is a book called "The Addicts Are Blessed" I don't remember the author, but addicts go through a battle that tears them down to nothing and that is when most will turn to the only hope left,god, in that they become renewed and so much stronger. Every terrible thing that happens in a persons life is a blessing in disguise. It is a way to gain strength and find love within your own self, overcome the very thing that has been holding you back and put that behind as you move forward in your journey. Life is a lesson. We have been told it all of our lives and it is the truth. Some will fail, but that is a part of their own journey. They will keep failing until they pick up on the real message, listen to it, overcome it. As I am typing this I feel so enlightened. I know that I am to spread my experience and the message on to others, all of us are to do so, this is the way to help the ones that cannot see clearly yet. It is a test of faith, we must let go of what society has programmed into our heads we have to love all and accept all. If you do this your life will be fuller and happier than ever. I am living with no job, my husband is out of work and we have a 3 year old. I have my family and love,that's all I need. I know everything will fall into place when it is time, I have faith and I know it will all be okay. I am happier then I have ever been and it is because I have found my way. We are all connected, put on earth with no knowledge, as we grow so does our spirits, but as a test of faith we are fed societies nonsense. It is our own to search for the truth, to follow our own hearts, learn how to follow our own voice. Find ourselves so we can love ourselves, and then we can love others and recieve truth in acceptance. This is what I have come to. I am by no means perfect nor do I have all the answers. I am on my journey and I am still learning just as well as you are. I still have things I need to change and I still let my emotions get to me at times. I can tell you this though, I have never felt so alive and whole. I trust my faith in god to lead me and I finally can say that I love myself and everyone around me, I understand people now and everything makes a lot more sense now. I want to gain all that I can... Knowledge is power (another commonly rejected phrase). I am living my life as a mere human, I try my best to stay humble and good, I trust in my faith and let god lead the way, I am keeping myself open to everyone so that they can see I am just like them...vulnerible, scared... But I have grown and I want to help show others the way. I haven't conquered all my fears... But fear does not control my life anymore so I can finally relax and enjoy this adventure. I know I have nothing to fear anymore. My email is laura.jeffers1 [at] verizon.net, I have a feeling us meeting was meant to be. Please email me if you feel it's right for you. May god bless you on your journey, remember listen to your own voice, all others except for the divine whisper are only there to hold you back from your true higher self. Take care and I really hope to hear from you soon.
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
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Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
I thought this quote would be appropriate for the moment: People are in love all around me and that makes me happy. Love is all around me. Love is all within me. Love is all about me. Love is everywhere I can see and feel. Although darkness trys to take over, the light is too powerful and blinds my sight of it. The light is shining within all things and in all directions, while the darkness is just an illusion... Anonymous
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
I have no respect for someone who makes a living out of lying and preaching their bullshiat. If you truly worked for God your services would be free. Your intentions are as corrupt as anything I've ever seen or felt before in my life. Just because you cover it up with more lies upon lies doesn't change the evil within your actions. Your actions cannot hide from God's judgment. And what I am saying is as good as nothing now. I've shown how I feel I've said how I've felt my story may be boring to you but to others it fascinates and pulls them into a genuine belief of love. People love to hear of the strange experiences I've felt and seen, for within HEARING, and SEEING, and BELIEVING, they are liberated. Unlike you who doubts and trys to control every aspect of reality. Well reality controls you. Reality is beyond you. Indulge upon your greedy profession as much as you will, just because you can fool some spirits into believing dark entities are within them that can be removed doesn't mean your actually removing dark entities. Demons are as eternal as God, and eternally within us. Just as Satan is God's son, and fell from heaven, so did God make an agreement with the Devil. The devil rebelled from God, and created his own world, this world. We are all within hell just as we are within heaven and below it. The devil works for God, and commits all the evil he will allow for whatever unexplainable reason it is allowed. Now allow me to be evil like the devil, for the devil is my true father and teacher, and the Lord, a companion of love. Seek to understand the origins of myth within you first before you believe all the crap you read and preach. Furthermore, when Satan rebelled from God, God allowed this. As God's creation and reincarnative abilities are within heaven, so does the devil control everything in this world reincarnatively. You clearly are baffled by what I am saying, shocked by the differences which face you and confuse you. Try to fathom and see God as if you understand it and you will only be blinded by the light. I myself, on the other hand, have chosen to look away from the light and see darkness, for the light is too bright. For within seeing darkness, the hidden light is revealed... Pan is a Greek God that is still worshipped, and symbolizes the magician in the tarot deck, also known as the christian devil. Call me a devil worshipper call me a dark entity call me whatever that will not change the fact that both God and the Devil are one being and are within us all a part of a much greater plan and purpose for the human destiny. Thank you for listening... Pan.
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
This is all rather hilarious to me right now if you think I've heard or listened to anything you've said then your pretty crazy. I'm sorry, but excuse my indifference to your opinions and judgmental beliefs? I admire your warrior like demeanor, and your quite victorious and glorious if you ask me. April fools. This is all a joke to me, and I'm the Joker, your the fool. Your a psychic vampire not a warrior. You try to remove the dark entities when you don't even understand their nature fully. Obviously they are alluding to you if I have the ability to invoke them inside of you. Ha ha why don't you focus on ridding of the dark entities inside yourself before you go around imposing your evil on anothers mind. You've been evil, but that doesn't make you an evil person. Just as you can be "good" but that doesn't make you a good person either. Get it straight, God does not think you are any better or any higher than anyone else. Your judgments are as mortal as mine. Except the only difference is that I admit this to myself and remain humble, while your pride gets the better of you and influences you to fight my will. If you know anything about religion, or astrology, or anything to do with alchemy, you would appreciate what I am about to say. God decieves you as much as God believes in you. We are all within judgment, and so judgment must be within us. You may not judge a book by its cover, you may not judge someone certainly as I may not judge you. For within being judged, you are liberated beyond and above all judgments. Nonetheless, if you wish to seek counseling, or some genuine advice as to where you are heading in ife, I would be glad to help guide you to your future destiny. But considering how you think you can "control my future" you also think you can control your own. Which basically means you have no control, and have the same weakness and worthlessness as every other living human whom faces these same contradictions and conflicts of companionship. As much as I am your enemy I am your friend. Keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer. Whatever Its really funny how you keep trying to tell me to read this and that like I will see it from the same point of view as you when the truth is, that we differ vastly in our experiences. Just because I smoke weed doesn't make what I've seen with my own eyes unreal and psychotic. You just aren't blessed enough to see what it really means to have faith in a higher power. The only faith you have is in your "warrior" self. When that warrior is as weak as the demons of which you seek to get rid of. Ask me not why. But instead seak to redeem yourself before God, and be liberated into his presence. If the presence is too great for you, then clearly, your presence is as good as the diffuse beliefs to which you "fight" to protect, when in fighting something beyond your will, you have lost the fight and battle. You cannot fight God, or the Devil for that matter, but instead embrace your nuetral judgmental nature, and be yourself. Thats all. A true psychic warrior does not need to fight or argue, a true warrior of faith states their reasons so powerfully as to destroy all others opposing. For within being as powerful as God has made them, they have the ability to influence like a God. And thus, this duality is within us all: something Godlike yet demonic. Something that is to be found in something that is lost. Smoking POT does nothing to your mind. You are as foolish as the assumptions and half-hearted beliefs in which you indulge upon. Let God forsake you and have mercy upon your soul, as have I. You may not be afraid of God because you believe God loves you so much, but that doesn't mean God does. That just means God is misleading you to believe that in this moment. That God wants you to realize what's actually going on instead of hear you preach all your crazy reptillian "de-cording and micro-chip" hogwash manipulation. I have met people like you before, you think your fighting For God's will when in reality your working for the devil. Go to www.thewatcherfiles.com youll see all the same disclosed informational crap that is on your website and within every prejudiced view you behold. People have been smoking pot forever, people have been taking hallucinegenics forever, it is part of our culture. Do some anthropology, and research into cultures outside of your ethnocentric view. Go to the amazon, where actual shamans heal and communicate with God. Where shamans are the head of the village and have multiple wives to give birth, to the same genes which have been altered through these visual experiences. Do you honestly think you can lead a whole brigade of your own against all those who see differently from you? That is insane. I read your website and the ideas in your book, and you know what, some of it is almost true, except for the fact that no one is perfect, and no one has a right to tell another that they are delusional and need "de-cording". Please tell me first, before you go on about what books I should read, what exactly I would be "de-cording" from, and if you can't do this, if you fail in such an attempt to explain, or your explanation is unbased in fact, then just keep your explanations to yourself. I will stay "corded" to God as long as I wish, in fact, I will be connected forever. Because to be connected is much wiser than to disconnect. To be disconnected or de-corded is as good as being lost and desolate within. I choose faith and providence, while you choose to demolish my beliefs and perceptual awareness. But you cannot put to sleep, something that is already awake. You can only tire another if their mind is already not aware. As your awareness clearly isn't right now, or may never be, or may be, according to the choices which you make within your fate. You have a fate, and God will forgive you for your sins, as God is forgiving me through each word I have said. What I am saying may be evil in your eyes, but to me, this tough love which is being judged as evil, is really to influence and eventually awaken you to the truth that you share two natures within yourself, you are not JUST God, you are part Demon too. You do not work for just good. You work for evil too. Just as I may be right and you may be wrong, so may I condemn the wrong within you and so may you do the same, just as I may praise the good within you and you do the same for me. So whos right like I've said? Or are we never right? Are we never wrong? Or can we be right? And can we be wrong? Everything you choose to believe about "Pot smoking" being bad is a question of ethical belief. Just because I am different from you in how I approach and experience life makes me no different from you. The only difference, is thus that you seek to be different from others, you seek To be your OWN God and that makes you as Good as evil. How do I know? Well I don't actually to tell you the truth, but I do know that God is not listening to you right now...
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
I take Dark entities out for a living... I am a Psychic Warrior... You on the otherhand are a POT smoker for a living... There is a difference... I don't deny you your pot and your stories... But enough is enough... Let you come out smelling like a rose with a good ending to your story... Right now the story sucks... Read InkHeart and change your future... Life is an Open book friend... Get use to the idea... Athena
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Life is not a book; life is real. Thus it is obvious you don't care about me or have the capacity to understand why another acts the way they do, instead, you try to restrict and limit their imagination by labeling them as this or that while avoiding labeling yourself, when the imagination just is and always will be. Furthermore, Your judgments on a book will not change the intentions of the authors original meaning. Just because you judge the book one way and label it doesn't mean another will look at it the same way as you. A story in a book may be as dull or exciting as you make it to be but no matter what it is the book always tells you something about your self. Yet a book always ends. But life grows on in new beginnings forever...
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Yah we don't care either... I guess the book has ended and it was a dull story after all... Athena
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
Wow keep all your opinions to yourself. To tell someone they are schizo is as offensive as anything can be. I don't care how interesting I am. And I don't care about the ending of my "story". An ending is always a new beginning. I read a lot too, so stop acting like a mother figure who thinks they know what's best for everyone. Sometimes, you just can't help everyone, or rather, sometimes, you need to just help yourself and leave others alone. Theirs a line you don't cross and you crossed it. Idealism is a strange encounter with the mind, and writing and reading are ways of expressing that mind. Nothing personal to you, just stop talking to me please. Is that really too hard for you? Too much to ask? Everything you say to me is poo poo hahahah
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-04-01)
when I read books... The first chapter sounds and looks good... After that it full of what I call "Fluff" or non-interesting words to keep the reader occupied... Then the End of the book get's interesting with a good ending... That's what your all about... I can hardly wait for the ending to come... Sort of like the "Silvertongue Mo" with his ability to change the story line...smiling...A new ending is coming to YOU... We can all be happy with...smiling!

And

When people write long writings it looses something we call "Keeping the reader Interested" because the writer becomes Self absorbed in their own stuff we call poo-poo... So I will not read anything beyond a "Stretch of Truth" after that I need a GPS to find my way out of the BS... Laughing!

Anyway read InkHeart... Silvertongue Mo will be able to change your future even if it looks bleak.

Athena
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
To be schizo is a choice Athena. To smoke weed is a choice. Stop preaching to me what you think and believe is "right" and "wrong" and let me make my own decisions. You are not God you don't tell people what to do and believe. If they want to intoxicate themselves at their own risk, then they shall. Just because you define it as some mental illness doesn't make it one. I obviously have full awareness over my condition, so just because you label me as schizo doesn't make you any more right than me or any more right in your definition of myself. You are not me, and do not understand me. Understand that so you can understand yourself and thus stop imposing your "own" point of view on others. Your schizo for telling me I am. Okay, you should know of all people, that psychology is a deeply interconnected to who we are, we fight fire with fire, and water with water. How does that sound? Just because my beliefs "sound" different then yours doesn't make yours any more "sound" than mine. Get this one fact straight, we are all crazy inside, and all express that insanity through different forms. You are your form, I am mine. Its that simple. You can show your form and try to influence me, but obviously it doesn't help cause it isn't helping me. I will help myself and change as I please. God did not give you the power to say who another is or what they should believe, God gave you the power to believe in what you want yourself and that's all. You can show your beliefs to others as long as you don't cross their will. The moment you do you have this- you have confusion, discord and argument. I am not saying you are wrong necessarily in your views, just that your views are judgmental and biased towards my own. So whos right? Whos wrong? When the very thing which you seek to help, and try to help, has only chosen the opposite of which you "try" to enforce. Do God a favor, and yourself, and stay out of anothers mind for your own peace, comfort, and safety...
P.S. Trying to "heal" others is only to put a curse upon yourself. I am not trying to heal you like you are trying to heal me, and the fact that you wish to charge me to "help" me is ludicrous and demonic enough. I know what I believe, very well, you clearly have been misguided in your judgments. Just ask God. He will tell you you are just as wrong as you think you are right. This I am use to. Haha call it schizo call it whatever Athena no one is right no one is wrong. Being openminded and seeing from all point of views is the only "healing" available to us. The moment you seek to define someone "insane" you have indulged upon the very sin which you seek to cure. So before you speak as if you Know God and Know the universe like its yours, think again. You are a human as am I. I do not claim any knowledge of anything or for that matter, anything at all. I live my life and die. Just cause you have your own book and a million ideas doesn't prove a damn thing about them being right or not. Don't try to De-cord me. Your as good as evil if you think you can take someones faith away by labeling them as a schizophrenic to "prove" that your not. Check the facts, check reality and your perception of it, things are not what they seem and God works mysteriously. Obviously you come from good intention but that doesn't mean your intention is Good. Don't try to argue someones faith, you can try to prove to them why it is wrong, but you are only getting down and dirty with their mind in doing so. The right thing to do is to accept all faith's and all point of views. To charge people to tell them of the "truth" is as deceiving and manipulative as anything else. We are creative minds and creative beings, we think uniquely and diversly. Our experiences are too different from eachother to impose any more will then is meant to be so. Reply if you will but expect no reply after this. I have my beliefs, whether they are "demonic" to you or not, I do not care. Learn for yourself that your own views can destroy and tear you down to nothingness. I have taken Lsd before I have taken the divine mushroom, I smoke weed all the time, because I love to do it. If God is going to Smite me then so be it. I am not afraid of what you think. You should be afraid of what I think. Whether you are or not is no concern to me. That is not the point. The point is this, we are all individuals experiencing this plane differently. Go money grub yourself elsewhere on someone who will actually believe when you tell them that they are mentally ill. Whether I am or not makes no difference to me, so realize this please and stop fighting this will power. For in fighting it, you will be defeated and lost, for as much as you fight, you will gain nothing, move nothing, change nothing. Believe me when I say this and if this message isn't proof enough for you then your clearly as delusional as everything which you seek to condemn and look down on. Thank you and never speak your thoughts to me again, As I will do the same for you. And thus our differences will liberate us unto the truth which already was and is our spirit. When you try to manipulate anothers will, you only manipulate your own...
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
I wanted to share what happened to a friend of mine who is also severe schizophrenic... He is displaying pretty much simular behavior to yours and what you are going through... I just wanted you to know that sometimes you just have to stop smoking the stuff but I guesss for you it is too late? Athena

Read this bit of info because my guide says it's True!

Marijuana Triggers Mental Illness

Researchers at Cardiff University (Stanley Zammit and colleagues) found a connection between frequent pot smoking and psychosis, schizophrenia, hearing voices and hallucinations. People who haven't smoked pot are less likely to display the same psychotic illnesses.

Read more at Suite101: Marijuana Triggers Mental Illness: Marijuana May Not Be Good Medicine http://behavioural-psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/marijuana_triggers_mental_illness#ixzz0jnxhCpZo
Pan again (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
Athena- I sent this to your email but spam would not allow it through... I am deep into all of the subjects which you seem to have a much deeper awareness of. The few things that I do know about myself are that, I am a capricorn, born under the astrological sign of Pan or the devil. January first is my birthday. According to the chinese calender I am draco, a capricorn snake. One of the signs with the deadliest of intuition. I feel we are equal, yet our natures differ. You seek to help others and De-cord them. I understand that I have been "corded" to a crystal structure deep within the spirit, mind, and body. I have chosen this fate though, although I may not understand it, my influence is as great as yours and very similar. I love when I find someone to talk to about this, and the fact that you said something shows me your divine will. Yet what do you know about the reptilians? How are you so sure they are something bad? And manipulating? I realize I have been manipulated by something I do not understand, yet it has given me great power and manipulation in doing so. Does that make me evil? The fact that I am not against a regime that is evil? I do forsee great catastrophe, but not physically, rather, I see mental disturbance arising in the future, but perhaps this has always been the future, or what people call Hell. People do not have a choice, they will implant us with these "spiritual chips" if you will call them whether they want or not. If people try and fight Gods will, or the Reptilian will, then are they not against God? What God even exists then? Possibly no God, but perhaps these Gods. These Gods are above us, indeed, but they only impose their will upon me in so far that I allow them too. There is a mutual agreement here. I do not know what or why or how I was chosen or for that matter, how you were chosen and so forth. But regardless the truth seems to remain the same, unseen and unheard to the masses, and perhaps divinely so. I feel we cannot control these things and that they have been put in place for a reason. I do not follow these Gods but Follow my own Heart and in doing this these Gods follow me. The possession they have over me is a willful possession, I have chosen to fall into their hands, share their evil nature and embrace a new world order which essentially is as it is for the very reason it must be. I don't understand what I believe or what I am saying to you. But I know within saying it I behold a great influence on all those around me, even you, just as you definetly behold the same influence on me. The I-ching shows that in 2012 we are increasing into something new, a novelty and density within the connectedness and uniqueness within experience, in 2012 we reach maximum novetly, whatever that insinuates. Whether this means the integration of the reptilians and our race, or whether it means the reptilians will come down and manipulate all into seeing these parallel dimensions showing to those who see that they see and those who don't being cursed to hell; whatever the truth may be, I will leave the truth at that, and act no further beyond my will then "God" may allow. I know you understand what I am saying. If you wish to reply and contact me, my email is at- boondocksaints6767 [at] yahoo.com I have no money for you and I know you charge for a reason; I am not asking for a reply or anything for that matter, but your thoughts and will would be greatly appreciated in helping guide me along the path I have already chosen...
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
As scary and misleading as it is, I feel there is no cure to my disease. I am already normal. But I know that I am insane. I know that I hide myself from others, shapeshifting so that my identity remains concealed. I do not call myself an Angel, or a Demon for that matter, but I know darkness is within me. I am aware of my acute influence as you are. God is a balance. Just as you balance me and seek to show what is good and righteous, so do I balance you and seek to show what is wrong and evil. In differing from you, our natures contrast, as does God and the devil. I may influence for evil but I am essentially still under Gods will and connectedness. It is a balance I do not understand. A balance I wish I was on the good side of. But know God has chosen that I may do his work for evil as well. It is your choice, and an evil one may essentially be just as good as a good choice, just as a good choice may essentially be an evil one. It is the way God made it to be that things can be as such. Like a paradox...
Pan (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
Thank you athena for your openmindedness. But I fear their is no de-cording from something that has attached to you beyond your will. This is who I am. And will always be. I came from a place above and belong there, nothing may disconnect that or myself from "It" when I believe that "It" has always really been myself in disquise. Although it is confusing I know its will is benevolent and caring. Although it does not care for all... I will contact you through your website and perhaps we will talk more
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
When I was reading this writing you wrote I distinctly got it was "Moth Man" You should read the book and watch the movie The Mothman Prophecy and know that the "Mothman" is known to give warnings in advance of catastrophes... The creature can see into the future and tell humans in their minds via telepathy of a future catastrophe that is connected with whoever he connects to... Telepathically connecting after it "Cords" into the human... Watch the movie twice... But please read the book! Athena

The Mothman Prophecies - Google Books Result
John A. Keel - 2002 - Body, Mind & Spirit - 288 pages
And journalist John Keel, arriving to investigate the freakish events, soon finds himself an integral part of an eerie and unfathomable mystery.
Books.google.com/books?isbn=0765341972...
athena-and-Kej (25 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-31)
Remember when the CIA was doing MK-Ultra experiments with LSD... Well it allowed for the guinea pigs or violation of humans Free Will... To be used for experimentation without their knowledge... LSD allowed for a person to hook into another state of unreality that normal people don't experience everyday... A scientist / doctor lost his life in one of the MK-Ultra experiments when he was given LSD in his drink one night and he jumped out of a window.

Now that has nothing to do with you except POT smoking does the same thing as LSD if you smoke it enough... It can put the mind in a state of euphoria... And you can see things in another "Plane of Existence" your own 3 D realm of reality of where we live and breathe. I don't doubt one bit you two saw what you saw... But even though "Pan" is the name he calls himself... He is not a Dark One... Even if he looks different then us. He is "Corded" into you and he connects consciously as well as sub-consciously with you because you allow it. No you are not insane... But if you do want to cut that attachment to the entity... It's not a beast... It may look like one... But it does you no harm... It speaks to you because you allowed it then and You allow it NOW from that very start of a connection long ago.

Do you want to release the connection to PAN or keep it? If you do want to cut the Cord... Contact me at www.crstal-avatar.com and look for J. Stephansen. I will charge for the De-Cording but I want you to think about it?... Do you really want to? Or do you really want to just talk about it... Let me know when you write me... Athena
Corey (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-03-30)
Is this actually possible? Or are you sure you didn't just dream it? I'm not doubting that you saw this creature, but what was it? And how could you be so sure of what it means?...

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